From: "Hakan" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2374220 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:33:02 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([162.83.95.194] helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1O2rHg-0002lv-Pe for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:33:02 -0400 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:63154) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2rHX-0005QM-2H for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:32:52 -0400 Received: from ThinkPad (pool-70-20-170-225.phil.east.verizon.net [70.20.170.225]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MYOPh-1NykWf0H0j-00VgZA; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:32:49 -0400 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.4BC8BB64.0005,ss=1,fgs=0 To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Hakan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2382 for OS/2 Warp 4.5 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] Tracerte, Delays and Unreachable Site Message-Id: <0MYOPh-1NykWf0H0j-00VgZA@mrelay.perfora.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+ga6vePfmN7n78LqHXOsMOMQMJtPZcd5gDBra 1MIQmiNmZNN2QWpnxGt6Mm+mFUHK1op1WANN/R0RXuKbHGC5F+ +YD7DiVucv73aZmvhf/Rg== Please see below. On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:09:47 -0500, Sam Lewis wrote: >On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Hakan > wrote: >> Both - they might be related. Note that the performance degradation >> with the Genmac driver compared to the regular network driver is less >> of a concern since I am assuming (rightly or wrongly at this time) that >> that is caused by the layering of the Win driver. > >Originally I had thought that they must be separate issues and I would >be concerned about the performance more that the functionality of >tracerte. But now I'm not so sure. > >But at any rate I don't think it is related to genmac. I get the same >results going to your web site using genmac on my wireless and the >native realtek driver on my wired. My tracerte times out after my >router and displays * and my ping times are 80ms and go up to 200 to >600ms when I browse the site, but I don't get a sense that the site is >sluggish. No, I never thought it was related to Genmac. However, there was a severe performance degradation on ping times when using the Genmac interface rather than the built-in NIC. >I'm still leaning toward the router being bogged down. But I am just >speculating. I disagree, I fail to see any support for that notion. Further, I should have added that there are only five clients on the network/router. I can now add that running Win2000 under Virtual PC 5.1 on the very same TP, I have no problem getting a traceroute to salesforce.com. Thus, I am leaning towards something odd in the OS/2 version of traceroute. >Sam >> >> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:26:20 -0500, Sam Lewis wrote: >> >>>Just curious, are you more concerned about tracerte functionality or >>>the poor performance? >>>Sam >>> >>>Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:01 PM, "Hakan" >> > wrote: >>> >>>> No difference: >>>> >>>> [D:\]tracerte -n salesforce.com >>>> traceroute to salesforce.com (204.14.234.33), 30 hops max, 38 byte >>>> packets >>>> 1  10.20.30.1  0 ms  0 ms  0 ms >>>> 2  192.168.1.1  0 ms  10 ms * >>>> 3  * * * >>>> 4  * * * >>>> 5  * * * >>>> 6  * * * >>>> 7  * * * >>>> 8  * * * >>>> 9  * * * >>>> 10  * * * >>>> 11  * * * >>>> 12  * * * >>>> 13  * * * >>>> 14  * * * >>>> 15  * * * >>>> 16  * * * >>>> 17  * * * >>>> 18  * * * >>>> 19  * * * >>>> 20  * * * >>>> 21  * * * >>>> >>>> The external process was cancelled by a Ctrl+Break or another process. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:06:45 -0400 (EDT), Julian Thomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Hakan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Both the eCS and the Win computer use 10.20.30.1 as the DNS, i.e., >>>>>> the >>>>>> Netgear router, which is also the default gateway. Trace route on >>>>>> both >>>>>> machines take me to first the Netgear router, than the Westell >>>>>> modem, >>>>>> after that the OS/2 application returns only '*' for each hop and >>>>>> eventually ends at 30 hops. The Win machine needs 11 hops to get to >>>>>> salesforce.com. >>>>>> >>>>> Try traceroute -n (which bypasses the reverse DNS lookup) and also >>>>> try the numeric IP for >>>>> salesforce.com to see if that makes any difference. >>>>> -- >>>>> Julian Thomas:   jt@jt-mj.net    http://jt-mj.net >>>>> In the beautiful Genesee Valley of Western New York State! >>>>> -- -- >>>>> Windows: From the people who brought you EDLIN! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> > >>>>> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to >>>> > >>>>> Send administrative queries to  >>>> > >>>>> To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: >>>> > and reply to the confirmation email. >>>>> Web archives are publicly available at: http://lists.2rosenthals.com >>>>> >>>>> This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC >>>>> P.O. 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