From: "Will Honea" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2379108 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:25:54 -0400 Received-SPF: pass (secmgr-ny.randr: domain of eigbox.net designates 66.96.188.6 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.96.188.6; envelope-from=SRS0=XnF6/R=MA=whonea.net=whonea@eigbox.net; helo=bosmailout06.eigbox.net; Received: from bosmailout06.eigbox.net ([66.96.188.6]) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O4dgO-0000eP-Mu for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:25:53 -0400 Received: from bosmailscan16.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.16]) by bosmailout06.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1O4dgK-0000oo-TI for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:25:48 -0400 Received: from bosimpout02.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.2]) by bosmailscan16.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1O4dgK-0005dz-Ln for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:25:48 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp02.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.2]) by bosimpout02.eigbox.net with NO UCE id 8HRo1e00C02gpmq01HRor2; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:25:48 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.2 X-EN-IMPSID: 8HRo1e00C02gpmq01HRor2 Received: from 174-22-135-166.clsp.qwest.net ([174.22.135.166] helo=192.168.100.9) by bosauthsmtp02.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1O4dgJ-0002BH-R5 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:25:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:25:44 -0600 To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" Reply-To: "Will Honea" In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] The OT "electrical protection" thread MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: The Polarbar Mailer; version=1.25d; build=2006 X-Mailer-Platform: Linux; architecture=amd64; version=2.6.27.45-0.1-default X-Mailer-Java-VM: Sun Microsystems Inc.; version=1.6.0_19; compiler=null X-EN-UserInfo: b0192109012588bf2b05ebe482b26736:f259605ce5aa1fb891467026511a1cfb X-EN-AuthUser: whonea@whonea.net Sender: "Will Honea" X-EN-OrigIP: 174.22.135.166 X-EN-OrigHost: 174-22-135-166.clsp.qwest.net Message-ID: ** Reply to message from "J R FOX" on Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:33:13 -0700 (PDT) > If the power center (and these sell for up to $500. retail, > depending on model, features, and where you buy them) really > does what they claim, or at least imply, it should die > immediately in a really bad strike, *without* passing any > current beyond itself. I'll have to review what was said > in the thread, but I suspect that's a major exaggeration, > OR it would not happen fast enough. Yes for rolling brownout > surges and spikes, but Not for lightning. OTOH, these units > do include a hefty amount of "attached equipment insurance." > Probably mainly a marketing ploy to justify their high cost, > and I haven't read the fine print on the guarantee. (I wonder > how it goes when someone tries to collect, on a legitimate > claim . . . ?) We had a few customers try collect on those insurance policies with mixed results. The devil is in the details (the REALLY fine print). Reminded me of filing claims against an auto insurer. Some are a fight from the "hello" while others act like an actual service company and are fairly reasonable. The successful claims either went in fully prepared with documentation and details submitted by a lawyer who prepared them or they were trivial cases but again well documented. The only fool proof (and fools are SO ingenuous!) scheme I ever saw would have made Rube Goldberg proud. We had a high security military computer system that took mains power to run an electric motor which in turn spun a multi-ton flywheel. This was coupled via a non-conductive shaft (about 4 inches in diameter and 8 feet long) to a generator that actually supplied power for the electronics over an isolated, shielded power loop. Great idea - but the ingenuous fools then proceeded to plug in the phone cable directly to the system. The best laid plans.... -- Will Honea