From: "Ed Durrant" Received: from mxout2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.166] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTP id 910295 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:32:11 -0500 Received: from mxin1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.175]) by mxout2.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HJ3wL-000HBN-1A for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:32:10 -0500 Received: from omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com ([144.140.83.156]) by mxin1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HJ3wK-000Bo8-NN for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:32:04 -0500 Received: from oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com ([124.189.184.88]) by omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070219083152.DQYJ295.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:31:52 +0000 Received: from [192.168.30.2] (really [124.189.184.88]) by oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070219083151.JSES14659.oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@[192.168.30.2]> for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:31:51 +0000 Message-ID: <45D960E1.7090504@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:33:37 +1100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (OS/2/20061223) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: New notebooks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at oaamta04ps.mx.bigpond.com from [124.189.184.88] using ID edurrant@bigpond.net.au at Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:31:51 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 144.140.83.156 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) Carl Gehr wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:54:23 -0500 (EST), Carl Gehr wrote: > > >> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:50:50 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >> >> >>> Carl Gehr wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:31:41 -0800, Neil Waldhauer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:22:53 -0500, "Lewis G Rosenthal" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I think that it's more the fact that it is a PCI Express machine with >>>>>> SATA drive architecture than anything else (though I understand that >>>>>> there are sound issues with it, as well). More and more of the newer >>>>>> generation of machines will be SATA and will have PCI Express instead of >>>>>> mini-PCI, and this, of course, is someting we need to watch in the >>>>>> market and be prepared to support. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> The T60 is using a graphics chipset that isn't supported by SNAP. I'd guess >>>>> that it would be slower than my old T21. With no sound support, and slow >>>>> graphics, it sounds like a poor choice. >>>>> >>>>> But I've got to thank the people who go out an buy these things, and then post >>>>> how poorly they worked under eCS. It helps me to make my decision for my future >>>>> machines. >>>>> >>>>> Neil >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Actually, the SNAP support on my T60 systems is one of the brighter >>>> spots. I did have to install the most current driver to get the >>>> Win-OS2 working. But, that part of my T60 seems OK. >>>> >>>> Granted, I am not interested in high intensity graphics, movies, etc. >>>> And, when I asked about the WiFi, PRO/1000, I thought I had received >>>> positive comments about those working. I did get advice to purchase >>>> the Intel GMA 950 instead of the ATI Mobility chipsets. >>>> >>>> I'm still hoping for some miracle on the WiFi and PRO/1000. I also got >>>> some bad advice on the audio. Close, but no hand grenades or >>>> horseshoes around to make up the distance... :-( >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Are you trying to use GenMac for the Intel PRO/1000 - there are native >>> OS/2 drivers from intel for this model - now whether the very latest >>> version of PRO/1000 is different is a question, however, I would check >>> the Intel website if I were you, you may be positively surprised. WiFi >>> is likely to be a longer trail for some chipset on some versions of >>> eComStation. >>> >>> Cheers/2 >>> >>> Ed. >>> >> Hmm... I thought I'd heard that there were no native drivers, and I >> thought I'd verified that. I'll check again and report back. >> >> Thanks, >> Carl >> > > Results of Intel Search: > > The T60 Adapter is: > Device 109Ah PRO/1000 PL Network Connection > The Intel drivers are for: > Intel® PRO/1000 CT Network Connection > Intel® PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 MF Dual Port Server Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 MF Server Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 MF Server Adapter (LX) > Intel® PRO/1000 MT Desktop Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 MT Dual Port Server Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 MT Server Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 XF Server Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 XT Low Profile Server Adapter > Intel® PRO/1000 XT Server Adapter > Now, unless one of the above is the same as the 'PL' version, I think > I'm still on the outside looking in... Does anyone know? Any way to > know which one to try? Here's the URL where I found the above: > >> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?strState=LIVE&ProductID=245&DwnldID=9258&agr=Y&lang=eng&PrdMap=245 >> > > Carl > > Hi Carl, That's why I said, as long as your machine doesn't use a new version of the chipset the E1000.NIF support the 8254X based adapters. I had heard that Intel had actually started using Broadcom chips in some of their adapters ! So you need to know what the chip is before you can progress - if you also have Windoze installed on the system, that driver might tell you in its properties. Cheers/2 Ed.