From: "Leon D. Zetekoff" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:02:34 -0500
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Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] VOT (very off-topic)
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Mark...you can't ground the coax if you're using it for the phones. You 
really should be using twisted pair.

Leon

* Mark Henigan wrote, On 2/12/2008 12:03 AM:
> Will Honea wrote:
>> ** Reply to message from "Mark Henigan" 
>> <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> on
>> Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:29:27 -0800
>>
>>
>>
>>> I think I need to describe the situation a little
>>> more clearly, given your reply and several others.
>>
>>
>> Not to beat a dead horse, Mark, but are you SURE that the phone 
>> company only
>> ran two wires?  Virtually every piece of their wiring I've looked at 
>> is at
>> least 4-wire (2 pairs) and most, if not all, the whoie house 
>> installations wre
>> either 4 or 8 pair bundles in a continuous loop from the service 
>> entrance
>> around the building back to service entrance.  They may have gotten 
>> really
>> cheap in the last few years, but I would still bet on at least 4 
>> wires - a lot
>> of their extra service oprions require 2 pairs, so that's what they 
>> use.  Be
>> worth a littel more investiagtion - you may have everything you need 
>> already,
>> especially if the house is more that 5-6 years old.
>
> Hello Will:
>
> I haven't seen more than two wires per line
> in years in residential installations; and,
> that is all they gave me.  I made a couple
> of primitive adapters with a little heat-
> shrinkable tubing to cover the majority of
> the length of the four wires that run with
> the foil shield on some coax I salvaged.  I
> also covered the point where the main
> plastic insulation was cut to inhibit the
> passage of moisture (trivially).  I have a
> large spool of high quality coax that I
> could have used.  But, I let my "waste not,
> want not" tendencies to take over.  I
> installed it with a little stretching at
> one end due to underestimating the distance
> between terminal screws.  I also forgot to
> get a grounding F-F pass-through connector.
> I'll get one and install it by this weekend,
> so long as there is no significant current
> to ground, something I'll check before
> making the connection.
>
> The connection is marred by intermittent
> crackling static that is never loud enough
> to interfere with conversation and will
> likely disappear after I ground the coax.
> It's no worse than many of the lines I've
> used in businesses.  The amplitude/volume
> is good.
>
> After some thought, I concluded that the
> ring tone was unlikely to cause any
> problems based on its voltage because it
> is both brief and intermittent, and is
> probably at a low enough current to not
> heat the wire of the coax.  After all,
> the wire used in telephone connections is
> tiny.
>
> I think it's going to be fine, despite its
> theoretical inadequacies.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts and your
> experience from a time when things weren't
> being done quite as cheaply.
>
> - Mark
>
> Mark Henigan

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