From: "Mark Henigan" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTP id 1702145 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:32:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none (secmgr-ny.randr: 68.142.198.200 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of sbcglobal.net) client-ip=68.142.198.200; envelope-from=driven_zen@sbcglobal.net; helo=smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com; Received: from smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.200]) by secmgr-ny.randr with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPGln-0003BB-2S for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:31:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 39267 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2008 12:31:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hK9mmw/4XbYsWVXGeLnX/4ieRGW/+NBnu+6KS9G9gH1IvD74gaTieaCY+C4DK3hjOC4M27eSSiXCizxKalr0FwB2Q+ysi5CnsHUNBn2P4sHlKSlYYtj2shjU4m1PBIU2otlX7Vu6VZB66sH92kbKOBbNO2mlGCBXBSWlOXmmCpA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.102?) (driven_zen@sbcglobal.net@75.18.127.237 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2008 12:31:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .AXbJUIVM1mBhGOri6c1_svZRc0.vk.ANwuGZ3WD4vcmdoWQZ6o4Y5XA.N7sYj6qgPvW8qnyHPXk27u5NrFSRE9lBOjhD_Rk_fmssLMX1AjQvL53_xM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47B2E34A.8060704@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:32:10 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, cs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] VOT (very off-topic) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: _SUMMARY_ Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: > Mark...you can't ground the coax if you're using it for the phones. You > really should be using twisted pair. Hello Leon: You're probably right. Good thing I don't need to. BTW, I had never noticed that you are a ham! I've been considering starting that process in my spare time. :-> Thanks again! - Mark Mark Henigan -- > Leon > > * Mark Henigan wrote, On 2/12/2008 12:03 AM: > >> Will Honea wrote: >> >>> ** Reply to message from "Mark Henigan" >>> on >>> Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:29:27 -0800 >>> >>> >>> >>>> I think I need to describe the situation a little >>>> more clearly, given your reply and several others. >>> >>> >>> >>> Not to beat a dead horse, Mark, but are you SURE that the phone >>> company only >>> ran two wires? Virtually every piece of their wiring I've looked at >>> is at >>> least 4-wire (2 pairs) and most, if not all, the whoie house >>> installations wre >>> either 4 or 8 pair bundles in a continuous loop from the service >>> entrance >>> around the building back to service entrance. They may have gotten >>> really >>> cheap in the last few years, but I would still bet on at least 4 >>> wires - a lot >>> of their extra service oprions require 2 pairs, so that's what they >>> use. Be >>> worth a littel more investiagtion - you may have everything you need >>> already, >>> especially if the house is more that 5-6 years old. >> >> >> Hello Will: >> >> I haven't seen more than two wires per line >> in years in residential installations; and, >> that is all they gave me. I made a couple >> of primitive adapters with a little heat- >> shrinkable tubing to cover the majority of >> the length of the four wires that run with >> the foil shield on some coax I salvaged. I >> also covered the point where the main >> plastic insulation was cut to inhibit the >> passage of moisture (trivially). I have a >> large spool of high quality coax that I >> could have used. But, I let my "waste not, >> want not" tendencies to take over. I >> installed it with a little stretching at >> one end due to underestimating the distance >> between terminal screws. I also forgot to >> get a grounding F-F pass-through connector. >> I'll get one and install it by this weekend, >> so long as there is no significant current >> to ground, something I'll check before >> making the connection. >> >> The connection is marred by intermittent >> crackling static that is never loud enough >> to interfere with conversation and will >> likely disappear after I ground the coax. >> It's no worse than many of the lines I've >> used in businesses. The amplitude/volume >> is good. >> >> After some thought, I concluded that the >> ring tone was unlikely to cause any >> problems based on its voltage because it >> is both brief and intermittent, and is >> probably at a low enough current to not >> heat the wire of the coax. After all, >> the wire used in telephone connections is >> tiny. >> >> I think it's going to be fine, despite its >> theoretical inadequacies. >> >> Thanks for your thoughts and your >> experience from a time when things weren't >> being done quite as cheaply. >> >> - Mark >> >> Mark Henigan > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to > Send administrative queries to > To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and reply to the confirmation email. > Web archives are publicly available at: http://lists.2rosenthals.com > > This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC > P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- > electronic communications related to content > contained in these messages should be directed > to the above address. 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