From: "Lewis G Rosenthal" Received: from [162.83.95.100] (account lgrosenthal HELO [192.168.200.51]) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTPA id 268487 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:20:06 -0400 Message-ID: <44D26880.1060003@2rosenthals.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:20:00 -0400 Organization: Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060701 MultiZilla/1.8.2.0i SeaMonkey/1.5a MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: PCMCIA help References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08/03/06 05:02 pm, R. G. Newbury thus wrote : > Lewis G Rosenthal wrote: >> On 08/03/06 11:01 am, R. G. Newbury thus wrote : >>> John Poltorak wrote: >>>> I'd like to try and get a PCMCIA card working on a DELL Inspiron 6000 >>>> laptop. Has anyone tried this? >>>> >>>> AIUI it has a RICOH RL5c476 Cardbus controller according to a PCI >>>> scanner >>>> I ran. Which Socket services driver will support that? >>>> >>>> >>> This is a Cardbus card You do not need Socket services. An NDIS >>> driver should do, exactly as if the card were a PCI card. >>> >>> I use a Xircom Realport Cardbus card in my Thinkpad 600E and the >>> required line is 'device=c:\ibmcom\macs\cbendis.os2' >>> >>> (Together with the usual other ibmcom stuff, of course). >>> >> Geoff, AFAIK, this is indeed *not* a CardBUS card. Of course, if >> you're using the same chipset along with a CardBUS card, that would >> make my statement moot... >> >> Are you sure that cbendis.os2 is not just a point enabler driver, >> which would mitigate the need for socket services? > > OK i guess there are 3 choices: > If it is a 16 bit card, then you need socket services; > If it is a Cardbus card but the controller chipset does not support > 32bit cardbus, then it probably will work through socket services. > ISTR that cardbus can gracefully downgrade to 16bit, but that may be > wrong. CardBUS is fully backward compatible with 16-bit PCMCIA. > Finally, if the chipset supports full 32bit cardbus services then it > appears as a pci bus to the system, and cardbus cards (well, nic's at > least) appear as pci cards. > Yep, this is my understanding, as well. > As far as I can tell the Realport is a full cardbus services card. > Socket services does not 'see' anything to do with the card itself. SS > will report that the slot is in use but nothing else. That implies > that it is more than just a point enabled card (althouhg it may be that > too). These cards among others will work with Veit's special programs, > such as cbenable which I doubt a non-full-cardbus card would do. > Yes, this makes sense. Perhaps, then, the information at os2warp.be is in need of correction. Thanks for following up and clarifying, Geoff. -- Lewis ------------------------------------------------------------ Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA, CLP, CLE Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC Accountants / Network Consultants New York / Northern Virginia www.2rosenthals.com eComStation Consultants www.ecomstation.com Novell Users Int'l www.novell.com/openenterpriseserver Need a managed Wi-Fi hotspot? www.hautspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------