From: "John Poltorak" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:45:03 +0100
To: "R. G. Newbury" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>
Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: PCMCIA help
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In-Reply-To: <list-268446@2rosenthals.com>; from R. G. Newbury on Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 05:02:44PM -0400

On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 05:02:44PM -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
> > On 08/03/06 11:01 am, R. G. Newbury thus wrote :
> >> John Poltorak wrote:
> >>> I'd like to try and get a PCMCIA card working on a DELL Inspiron 6000
> >>> laptop. Has anyone tried this?
> >>>
> >>> AIUI it has a RICOH RL5c476 Cardbus controller according to a PCI 
> >>> scanner
> >>> I ran. Which Socket services driver will support that?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> This is a Cardbus card  You do not need Socket services. An NDIS 
> >> driver should do, exactly as if the card were a PCI card.
> >>
> >> I use a Xircom Realport Cardbus card in my Thinkpad 600E and the 
> >> required line is 'device=c:\ibmcom\macs\cbendis.os2'
> >>
> >> (Together with the usual other ibmcom stuff, of course).
> >>
> > Geoff, AFAIK, this is indeed *not* a CardBUS card. Of course, if you're 
> > using the same chipset along with a CardBUS card, that would make my 
> > statement moot...
> > 
> > Are you sure that cbendis.os2 is not just a point enabler driver, which 
> > would mitigate the need for socket services?
> 
> OK i guess there are 3 choices:
> If it is a 16 bit card, then you need socket services;

I'm pretty certain it's a 16 bit card - old IBM credit card token ring 
card. But how do I confirm whether it is?

> If it is a Cardbus card but the controller chipset does not support 
> 32bit cardbus, then it probably will work through socket services. ISTR 
> that cardbus can gracefully downgrade to 16bit, but that may be wrong.
> Finally, if the chipset supports full 32bit cardbus services then it 
> appears as a pci bus to the system, and cardbus cards (well, nic's at 
> least) appear as pci cards.
> 
> As far as I can tell the Realport is a full cardbus services card. 
> Socket services does not 'see' anything to do with the card itself. SS 
> will report that the slot is in use but nothing else. That implies that 
> it is more than just a point enabled card (althouhg it may be that
> too). These cards among others will work with Veit's special programs, 
> such as cbenable which I doubt a non-full-cardbus card would do.

But how do I identify the appropriate socket service driver?
> 
> Geoff


-- 
John