From: "John Poltorak" Received: from mxout1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.165] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 272022 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:44:35 -0400 Received: from mxin2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.176]) by mxout1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9S4Q-0007mG-6L for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:44:27 -0400 Received: from 213-152-37-93.dsl.eclipse.net.uk ([213.152.37.93] helo=mail.warpix.org) by mxin2.mailhop.org with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9S4K-0002Az-Jc for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:44:20 -0400 Received: from tp600.warpix.org by mail.warpix.org (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id UAA589.37; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:44:10 +0100 Received: by tp600.warpix.org (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id UAA001.05; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:43:18 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:43:17 +0100 To: Steven Levine Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: PCMCIA help Message-ID: <20060805204317.B46@warpix.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i In-Reply-To: ; from Steven Levine on Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 10:32:24AM -0700 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hi Steven, On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 10:32:24AM -0700, Steven Levine wrote: > In , on 08/05/06 > at 01:33 AM, "John Poltorak" said: > > Hi John, > > >Yes, there looks to be quite a lot of useful stuff, but nowhere to ask > >questions. > > You can ask here. > > >I get the impression that my controller card is supported out of the box > >with Warp 4, but it doesn't work. I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong. > > In the hope of not muddling things worse than they already are. > > There are two kinds of PCCard interfaces. The older 16-bit PCMCIA > interface and the current Cardbus interface, which is usually 32-bit. > > There are two kinds of PCCard drivers. Socket services compliant and > point enabled. Socket services compliant drivers require a socket > services driver (i.e. IBM2SS14.SYS etc.). > > Point enabled drivers do not require a socket services driver. They > contain code to power up the PCCard and assign fixed resources. They > rarely contain APM support, so typically you can not suspend and resume. > > Some drivers include code for both Socket Services support and point > enabled use. > > A given point enabled driver written in the days of 16-bit PCMCIA sockets > may or may not work in a Cardbus socket. We do not live in a perfect > world. > > First thing you need to do is find a driver for the Token Ring card. That's the easy bit. I've been using the card for about 7 years in a ThinkPad 600 The driver is IBMTOKCS.NIF. I pretty certain it's a 16-bit card. > Next you need to figure out if the driver requires socket services or if > it is point enabled. If it is only point enabled, you may be out of luck. > The driver will either work or not. I think it does require a socket services driver. > If the driver is point enabled only and the driver does not work, your > next task is try Veit's cbenable. If may be able to power up the socket > sufficiently for the driver to work. > > If the driver is Socket Services compliant, you need to track down a > Socket Services driver for your Cardbus socket controller (i.e. the > Ricoh). It may or may not exist. My sources say you need to use the > Socket Services driver for the Lattitude CPX, C600 or C610 models. This > is at the Dell site. I have little confidence in finding anything I need at Dell's website. In any case I'm not aware of any cross reference table showing which socket services driver are used by which controllers. I doubt whether Dell would have anything for OS/2. And if they did, I wouldn't be able to find it. According to http://www.os2warp.be/index2.php?name=pcmciaentry There is a green tick in column 0 against Ricoh RL5C476, which AIUI suggest that I should be able to use this out of the box with Warp 4, but I can't see any reference to which driver to use. I hope this is the correct chip. I got its ID using PCI. > As I often tell you, you would really help yourself if you provided more > specifics without being asked. Exactly which token ring card are you > trying to use and which PCCard driver are you using with it? A link to > the driver would be good. The NIFs and readmes ofthen provide useful > clues. Thanks for your comprehensive explanation on how the PCCard interface works. As for my original question I thought I'd been sufficiently clear what I needed. Obviously not. > > Steven > > -- -- John